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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. -- Albert Einstein
And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter -- Thomas Jefferson, in an 1823 letter to John Adams.
I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular Superstitions of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men women and children since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth. -- Thomas Jefferson
incapable of independent reasoning?
You're as retarded as the idiots burning books.
Whatever books they've already read have clearly befuddled them.
Seriously...if I had a book by...say, Glen Beck, or Rush Limbaugh, I sure wouldn't just leave it around--a child might find it. And I wouldn't give it to anyone I care about.
Christian does not necessarily mean dumb. You pulled two quotes from two geniuses, but their atheism is not the font of their genius. I just can't stand the popular sentiment that belief in a higher power must therefore mean a lack of intelligence--especially as I am a doctoral student in a highly competitive graduate program, and still somehow manage to keep up with the classwork and get articles published even with my "deficiency" of believing in a higher power.
P.S. King James was a total Douchebag!
The answer, of course, is that it was originally a holiday celebrating the winter solstice, which christianity hijacked and made their own, as long as the people they conquered called it 'christmas' instead of 'yule.'
See dictionary dot com slash yule
What does servant mean?
show me where it says apple in the bible...it talks about the fruit from the tree of knowledge
hollywood stuck an apple in it...the fruit however was a metaphore for understanding and knowledge in general.
It mentioned no type of fruit that it was, be it kiwi, apple, banana, etc...
The corn-thing is a horribly stupid thing to point out wrt to translation of the King James edition, because it is actually a good translation (its only the language that changed over the years) - in particular when there are so many other bad things in KJV.
Its use is only restricted to corn on the cob or maize in north America.
Really.
Corn could have referred to the ignorant, bumbling hayseeds to whom Jesus was trying to teach rudimentary philosophy.
Or it could have been slang for slinging lame comedy. "Walked among the corn" could be comic-talk for "Jesus bombed at The Manger nightclub in Nazareth."
I recently had an email exchange with a man I know who is a Wycliffe missionary working in Papau New Ginea. He and his family are translating the Bible into the Koluwawa language. My wife and I help support them in their work and wish God’s blessings upon them and their labors to bring the gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to the native Koluwawa speaking people.
Over the years we have from time to time discussed the Bible version issue and whether or not there exists such a thing as a Bible that can truthfully be called the complete, inspired, infallible and 100% true words of God. My position is that there is and it is the King James Bible. His position is that there is not, but we need to do the best we can to communicate God’s “message” in the language that the target audience will understand.
This article is in response to some of the objections my missionary friend Brad brought up. He writes: Hello again to Will and all. I want to address a couple things you said in your reply. You said: “He (the Lord Jesus Christ) was talking about His preserved words. They would not pass away. Where are His preserved, inspired and infallible words today? Your side doesn't know. Or they tell us that they are scattered all over the place in a multitude of conflicting and partial mss. Not in a single Book.”
Brad continues: “You talk about "His preserved words." My concern for the accurate preservation of God's Word is exactly why I can never be a KJV-onlyist. Take for example the word "corn." Matthew 12, Mark 2, and Luke 6 in the KJV all have Jesus walking through the "cornfields." But "corn" in modern American English does not mean what it meant in King James English. The term "corn" was good, accurate translation when it was used in the KJV, but if you ask a person on the street today to give you all the words and ideas they can think of that associate with the term "corn," you're going to hear about maize and ears of corn and popcorn and caramel corn, etc. You'll even hear something about corny jokes and corned beef and foot corns before you hear anyone say that it is an archaic general term for "grain" (if you hear them say that at all). The meaning that Jesus walking through the cornfields had for readers of the KJV 350 years ago is not preserved for readers today when that same form "corn" is retained. But your position holds that you must preserve the form "corn" because it is inerrant and inspired, and in order to hold that position, you must either face the fact that you are retaining a form that no longer carries the meaning originally intended, or you have to deny that the meaning has actually changed in the face of extremely strong evidence to the contrary.” (end of quote from Brad)
So what do we do with the word “corn” as found in the King James Bible?
Well, the short answer is - We keep it, just as it stands.
People who do not believe that there ever existed and does not exist now any Bible in any language that is the preserved, inspired, complete and 100% true words of God seem more concerned about “communicating in the target language” their assumed meanings of a few individual words like “corn”, “conversation”, “let” and “gay” than they are about whether or not literally thousands of God inspired words, whole phrases or entire verses (anywhere from 17 to 45 in the N.T. alone) belong in the true Bible or not.
I and many others firmly believe that the sovereign God of history has indeed fulfilled His promises to give us “the book of the LORD” which we can hold in our hands, read and believe every word. This real and tangible Book is the Authorized King James Holy Bible. It is the Standard and final written authority by which all other “bibles” are to be measured.
God put His pure words in the end times universal language of the English tongue. The true Bible comes from England, not the United States of America, nor Rome, nor Spain, nor Germany nor from Papau New Ginea. All we need to do to understand the meaning of those few English words that some people label as “archaic” or misunderstood, is to simply look them up in a dictionary and learn what they mean.
In the old days they used to call this “getting an education”. Students look up and learn new words and meanings every day of their lives. Technical names, scientific terms, medical terminology and slang are picked up on a regular basis. Don’t even Bible teachers have to teach the meaning of words like Amen (So be it - Greek, from a Hebrew word meaning Truth or Certainlty), Hallelujah - (Hebrew/Greek meaning Praise to Jehovah), “the rapture” (from the Latin rapt meaning to be carried away), “Trinity” (Latin meaning a unity of three) or “Messiah” (from the Hebrew meaning ‘anointed’)?
Or even the simple word “Bible”. How many people know what this word literally means and where it comes from? All we need to do is a little study if we do not understand the meaning of a Bible word. We do not need to dumb down the greatest book ever written. People actually read these modern language, conflicting and contradictory “updated” bible versions and believe them less and less every day.
Corn - what does it really mean and how many Bible translations use this useful and accurate word?
If you bother to actually look up the English word “corn” to see what it means rather than assuming you already know what it means and that the King James Bible is “deficient or out of date”, you will learn some very interesting details about this wonderful, all embracing, generic English word “corn”.
Webster’s Dictionary tells us that the word “corn” comes from the Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German & Old Norse korn grain, Latin granum. And it means: a: the seeds of a cereal grass and especially of the important cereal crop of a particular region (as wheat in Britain, oats in Scotland and Ireland, and Indian corn in the New World and Australia) b : the kernels of sweet corn served as a vegetable while still soft and milky.
Another English dictionary tells us that corn is:
1.a cultivated American cereal plant (Zea mays) of the grass family, with the grain borne on cobs enclosed in husks; maize
2. the ears or kernels of this cereal plant
3. British - the seeds of all cereal grasses, as wheat, rye, barley, etc.; grain
4. any plant or plants producing grain
5. the leading cereal crop in a particular place, as wheat in England or oats in Scotland and Ireland
So we see that the simple word “corn” can refer to any type of grain crop including Indian maize, or wheat, barley, oats or rye. It is a general term for any kind of cultivated grains.
One of my nieces, a really wonderful and highly intelligent young Christian woman, told me about how when she was in 4 H clubs they used to make what they called “Corn Dolls”. These are actually made out of wheat sheafs or any other kind of grain. You can read about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_dolly
How many English bible translations use the word “corn” besides the King James Bible? The answer may well surprise you. Beginning with the liberal RSV of 1946 some English bible translations began to remove the word “corn” and substitute the generic term “grain”, apparently unaware that the word “corn” is itself a generic term for any kind of edible grain. Now the word “corn” is also omitted by the NRSV, ESV, NKJV, NASB and NIV.
However, the word “corn” is found in the following English language Bible translations throughout history. The Wycliffe Bible 1395, Tyndale 1525 - example: Matthew 12:1 “In that tyme went Iesus on the Sabot dayes thorow the CORNE and his disciples were anhogred and begane to plucke the EARES OF COORNE and to eate.”, Coverdale 1535, the Bishops’ Bible 1568, the Geneva Bible 1557 to 1602, John Wesley’s translation of the New Testament 1755, Webster’s bible 1833, Youngs ‘literal’, Darby’s translation 1870, the Douay-Rheims bible, the Revised Version of 1881, the American Standard Version of 1901, Rotherham’s Emphasized bible 1902, Lamsa’s translation of the Syriac 1936, the New English Bible 1970, the Complete Jewish bible, the Jewish Publication Society bible of 1917, the Hebrew Publishing Company’s 1936 translation, the World English Bible - (example: “For it is written in the law of Moses, "You shall not muzzle the ox when he treads out the corn." 1 Corinthians 9:9), the New Life Bible 1969, the Amplified Bible 1987, the Jerusalem Bible 1968 and the New Jerusalem bible 1985, the Revised English Bible 1989, the Living Bible 1981 (see Mat. 12:1 and other verses); the 21st Century KJV 1994 and the Third Millenium Bible 1998.
Surprise! Even Peterson’s 2002 The Message contains the use of the word “corn” to describle any type of edible grain.
Micah 7:1 - “I'm overwhelmed with sorrow! sunk in a swamp of despair! I'm like someone who goes to the garden to pick cabbages and carrots and CORN And returns empty-handed, finds nothing for soup or sandwich or salad.’”
Hebrews 6:7 “Parched ground that soaks up the rain and then produces an abundance of carrots and CORN for its gardener gets God's "Well done!"
When people tell you that such and such a word in the King James Bible is either “archaic” (How can it be archaic if it is used every day by thousands of Bible believers?) or misunderstood, it is all a smokescreen and a shallow excuse for their not submitting to any Book as God’s final authority for both faith and practice. Not one of these people who claims that either the underlying texts or the English translation should be “revised” actually believes there exists such a thing as the complete and 100% true Holy Bible in any language.
For me and thousands of other Bible believers the choice is very clear and simple. If we have to choose between the absolute Truth of God’s preserved words in the English language, though it may be harder to understand in certain places, or the multitude of conflicting, contradictory and often false modern language versions, we will take our stand on that old Book that has stood the test of time and the enemies attacks - the King James Holy Bible.
“Kept by the power of God through faith” - 1 Peter 1:5
Will Kinney
There is no god. Get over it.
And if i want to take up more than 1 line, I add:
Think for yourself instead of blindly following the writings of primitive hominids who couldn't explain science so they attributed it to 'god.'
Not all Christians are "blind followers," just as it is incredibly flawed to believe all humans before the modern timesare "primitive hominids." What year did peple stop being "primitive hominids" then? The eighteenth century, or the "Age of Reason?" But then we have those pesky problems with the educational system, imperialism, racism, sexism, etc. So... 1965, then? But then there are still problems...
My point being? You can't discount writings just because they are old.
For so many people it will be too late when they realize this.
Seems to me we're supposed to get our directions from God himself and not just act out things of the past, and be there for others and provide light rather than darkness.
I don't get the suit-wearing thing, either. I don't believe Jesus ever did, so why are we to follow this man-made tradition? And just sit in church and be quiet for an hour so that some guy can talk to us, a one-way conversation. Yet, Jesus had two way conversations with the people he met.
I had a revelation a month or two ago, an epiphany, if you will: jesus = santa. santa = jesus. Both promise you something for good behavior (everlasting life/presents) and attempt to put fear in you if you're bad (eternity in hell/coal in your stocking).
The strange part is the idea that the previous versions of the Bible are works of Satan, even though the King James version is entirely based on those "evil" books. Huh?!?
No wonder so many folks view southern Baptists as crazed hypocrites.
"Come for the chicken, stay for the hatred." should be their slogan.
How many varieties of mis-interpretation managed to sneak in? A whole lot!
Hop to it, Mr. Grizzard, and enjoy your burned chicken. Animal sacrifice too, I might add.
Why don't they just say.... 'we don't like anything or anyone!'
Book burnings have included the destruction of the Library of Alexandria, the burning of books and burying of scholars under China's Qin Dynasty, the destruction of Mayan codices by Spanish conquistadors and priests, and in more recent times, Nazi book burnings and the destruction of the Sarajevo National Library.
Book burnings have included the destruction of the Library of Alexandria, the burning of books and burying of scholars under China's Qin Dynasty, the destruction of Mayan codices by Spanish conquistadors and priests, and in more recent times, Nazi book burnings and the destruction of the Sarajevo National Library.
what a joke.
also, will someone please tell me why the Grateful Dead didn't make the cut? I am shocked and appalled.
Also known as "the wife and kids".
jeez i really wish my city was mentioned in a more positive context, haha.
The distrust and hatred of newer versions of the Bible really comes from a complete lack of understanding of language and translation itself. Any bilingual person or linguistics major (like myself) knows that ideas usually can't be translated effectively word for word into another language; if you do, you risk extreme awkwardness at best and misunderstanding at worst. It's much better to choose a natural phrase from the target language that conveys the same idea as the source language. And that could change over time: language is always in motion. So yeah, this KJV-only thing is completely ridiculous and as a Christian, I'm embarrassed that these people even exist.
http://twitter.com/alysdexia
http://google.com/groups?q=JFG-vs-Scripture
The Church of the Sub-Genius can boast a hell of a lot more than that, and they ARE a joke!
Now, he has what he wants and shall have more.
You mean like how Raw Story promotes Limbaugh, Beck and every other offensive asshole it can find, every day?
Yes, they do.
They also gatekeep 911 truth.
And why not burn the entire stupid bible already?
They don't because that satanic book makes them function.
Read William Blake's works for the demonic slant on the bible.
Coincidentally there's a room in my hell where she's also played 24/7.
None of these people even realize, or at least acknowledge, the fact that their jebus was nothing more than tales told about older greek gods that were worshiped at the time.
See Bill Maher's 'Religulous,' he lays out the facts.
600 years before jesus, there was another greek 'god' who was 'born of a virgin,' 'walked on water,' 'had 12 disciples,' 'cured the sick,' 'gave sight to the blind,' and 'rose from the dead.'
The myth of Jesus borrowed from Asklepios, Hercules, Prometheus, Dionysos, Osiris, Horus, Mithra, Krishna, Buddha, Apollonius of Tyana, and Zarathustra.
Not that mouthbreather.s who think Jesus spoke in English would get the implications..
Speaking of which...where did we get the names for the days of the week, hmm?
Oh, that's right...Thursday = Thor's day.
Different day of the week, different god! HUZZAH!
(an Anglo-Saxon god in England till about the 7th century, associated with the Roman god Mercury)
Personally, I find the idea of a free BBQ appealling - mmmmm.... slow-cooked chicken, flame-broiled over bestsellers and Bibles (Satan wrote Bibles...? Who knew?). Nice to know that a church that obviously has too much money would be picking up the tab!
This is a test.
Sorry for doubting you, Raw. I commend you for screening the comments since I saw some hatemonger earlier speaking as Larisa.
Do a little dance?
OTOH, if they go out to mass-purchase every copy of every questionable book they can from all their local bookstores, they'd bee shooting themselves in the foot and they're too stoopid to even realize it. They'd be supporting the very works they seek to denounce by paying for it and they'd be contributing to the causes they look to scorn.
Do they really think that burning a few copies are going to make any difference?
They should all be rounded up and arrested for contributing to global warming, or *something.*
Give it to the local police dept, I'm sure they could come up with civil violations of something or other; cops are good at that, coming up with some infraction for which everyone would be arrested.
Of course that assumes the local PD aren't in the same nuthouse as these crazy religitards.
btw, the EPA was contacted 2 days ago on this when we 1st started circulating the story and the Asheville news did pick it up on WLOS via the AP.
Continue to enjoy your blissful ignorance.
"600 years before jesus, there was another greek 'god' who was 'born of a virgin,' 'walked on water,' 'had 12 disciples,' 'cured the sick,' 'gave sight to the blind,' and 'rose from the dead.'
...And a couple of mellenia before that, said diety was being worshipped in Egypt and was known as Horus - 12 followers, rose from the dead, the whole bit.
The story of Jesus is yet another restatement of a very, very old myth from the Cradle of Civilization.
Personally, I find the offer of a free BBQ quite appealling... nothing like chicken slow-cooked over a fire of best-sellers and Bibles (...Bibles...? Satan wrote Bibles...? Who knew...?), and having a church that obviously has too much money pick up the tab! :-)
I'm an atheist but I certainly wouldn't judge the whole Christian faith on a church of 14 people in a tiny American town. Likewise, you can't judge the entire Muslim faith on a handful of psychotic terrorists.
Cue soundtrack for Footloose.
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Ignorance is enslavement. Inspiration is freedom. Reading and the arts are the only paths to Inspiration. Cults such as this one, want us to believe that the one man is God or God's only voice.
This kind of domination comes from a man who has only fear and shame to offer his 'sheeple'.
http://twitter.com/alysdexia/favorites
http://google.com/groups?q=JFG-vs-Scripture
Just another black eye for christians done by the media.
Whole story is idiotic
I'll pitch in my Golden Dawn, necronomicon, and Satanic bible (Anton Le Vey), all my cheaper pagan books, all my herb books, all my astrology books, no more enoch, all the other cheap little spell books, my book of shadows, as long as this Church throws in ALL their books.
I agree, We all should toss EVERY religion's book in a fire and start over from scratch.
We should burn them all at night, on full moon, with skyclad dance around the fire and raise our sexual energy as the moon gets smaller and smaller so shall the influence of all religion get smaller and smaller. Afterwards we'll burn some herbs, have a nice meal, coffee, mead, booze and meditate, in between trips to the bowers.
no?
Then forget I ever said it.
Oh wait.. o)
That's 14.
The guy has his followers! Watch out!
Wow, just wow.
http://youtube.com/alysdexia
http://twitter.com/alysdexia/favorites
http://google.com/groups?q=JFG-vs-Scripture
Incidentally, Spinoza was born a Jew and knew the Hebrew text of the OT like the back of his hand. His remarks about ambiguities and contradictions in the text cannot be ignored, even by the pious.
I kept it until the elements and repeated laundering had shredded it to a meshed ghost of what it once was. Long gone, it still gives me comfort.
Old adage there, think twice, speak once.
Let me lay it on the line for you, in case you didn't catch it first time: God did not authorise the King James version of the Bible, King James did - or at least those at his service. King James was just a man, although he fancied himself a direct descendent of God. So unless you are about to bow down and worship the Queen, which would be an interesting turn of events, why don't you just give it up?
So. Sorry. King James didn't lie about this.
So. Sorry. King James didn't lie about this.
just ask jesus to come into your heart and exepect his free gift and your life will never be the same if you made the decision to let jesus lord of your life please go find a local church find the pastor or one of the faithfull and tell them of your dicesion so that thay can gide you in your new walk with christ and that you can grow in christ god bless you all and may the love of christ shine in your life
a conserned christian
I am a pastor at Landover Baptist Church in Freehold, Iowa (http://www.landoverbaptist.net) and we are supporting the good Christian people at Amazing Grace Baptist 100%. It is people like them and us that keep America from tipping over completely into the wretched hands of homosexuals, atheists, communists, feminists, and Satanists.
As a follower of Jesus, I don't want to be associated with you in any form. You are SO out of touch with the needs of those all around it is not only sad but pathetic.
What is this all about REALLY?
I don't see a shred of authentic love being demonstrated here, just more of the smug, self righteous nonsense that gives other churches a bad name.
Re-think why you doing what you are doing and for whom you are doing it.
Enough said.
"you cannot sedate all the things you hate"marilyn manson
It is a simple fact that most Christians today do not believe that any Bible in any language is the complete, inspired and 100% true words of God. The predicted apostasy is here and nobody is going to stop it. Mockers will increase and iniquity will abound.
Here are some documented facts about the majority of present day Christians no longer believing in the existence of an infallible Bible.
http://brandplucked.webs.com/thebiblenotinspire...
"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."
Will K
Of course, if the King James is the inspired word of god, why aren't these people C of E? Anglicans and Episcopals haven't done anything like this for about 400 years.
Liz Mitchell
The Bible was originally written in Hebrew and Greek (I think). It was not originally in English at all. In fact, there are verses in the Bible that say that the Word shall not be altered. Translation is most assuredly altering. So, if they are splitting hairs, I have a thick one here for them.
/Thank Bob they're burning this one: http://www.urinalgum.com/?p=601
Does anyone else see shades of "Footloose" in this article? This guy is just looking for his 15 minutes of fame. Don't give him anymore than that.
If it were up to them we would all be living in the dark ages.
The guys and gals that clench the king james bible tight are a special breed thats for sure.
I'm surprised they had a webpage, I would have figured that was EVIL DEVIL'S WORK too.
Now, addressing the "corn" situation. You don't seem to realize that the King James Version of the Bible has been translated from Hebrew, God's chosen language. The person who translated it, used the best match that he could for each word. What he translated to 'corn' was probably some other kind of food.
As for our friend, the Pastor and his little "church"....do NOT confuse this with being Christian. There is nothing Christian about that group. They are mentioned in the Bible, of course. Jesus talks about decievers in the End Times. Think of how many people that were on the verge of making a decision about Christ who read that story and decided against it. God's word is God's word and I don't care what title a Bible has, I don't care if it was simplified (We wouldn't want any children to understand the Bible, right?!)...God does not want his word burned. I am not God nor Jesus, but I can assume that this act will not be forgotten and in the end, our Pastor friend here will have something in common with all of the Bibles at the end of his little party.
Well, OK, no, I'm not sure, but there may be some. Of all the Christian sects, the Southern Baptist Convention churches really have cornered the market on intolerance (which I'm sure has nothing to do with the pro-slavery folks taking over the SBC back in the 1840s, then the Uberconservatives' systematic firing or voting out of moderates - and of course liberals as well - starting in 1979). McConnell, Lott, Grassley, Graham, DeLay.... Do any of those names ring a bell?
However, I guess the basis is if you can't justify your argument against it in logic terms, then the only option left is to destroy it!
Maybe they should read my book - that is if they haven't burnt them all!
Chris Warren
Author and Freelance Writer
Randolph's Challenge Book One - The Pendulum Swings
(see it at the Frankfurt Book Fair. Hall 8 Stand N959)
However, I guess if you can justify your argument against something by logical argument, the only thing left to do is destroy it!
Maybe they should read my book, Randolph's Challenge Book One - The Pendulum Swings - that is if they haven't burnt them all!
Chris Warren
Author and Freelance Writer
Randolph's Challenge Book One - The Pendulum Swings
(see it at the Frankfurt Book Fair. Hall 8 Stand N959)
It will be their downfall
And they ignore the entire rest of the book.
Sadly this is the state of our country. we must purge it of these nuts or they will consume us in their vile and filth.
Then get out there and start killing witches and sorcerers, Bubba. Unless you only want to uphold the parts of the bible that make YOU feel good. Watch out though. A lot of the ones I know are armed and ready this time.
Does this retard not realize that Catholics decided what went into the Bible and therefore wrote the book. While you are at it just burn all bibles. It was a Catholic invention made to read exactly how they wanted it to read in order to control their parishioners.
While everybody is sleeping the boats put out to sea
Borne on the wings of time
It seemed the answers were so easy to find
Too late, the prophets [profits] cry
The island is sinking let us take to the sky
Ventura Sheehan Perot Paul
Nader McKinney Kucinich Kaptur
Grayson Gravel Gonzalez Clemente
Choate Carter Baldwin Anderson
FREAKS!
Jesus loves the sinner and hates the sin. This church is messed up..I do enjoy the fried chicken though....
FREAKS!
Billy Graham is a 'heretic?' This crowd is just a bit right of Torquenada.
I want to know if 'their' God told them to do this, I doubt it very seriously. They are nothing but a group of radicals looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
Shame of NC and this church.
And the spoiled child layeth upon the ground,
Knowing the POWER of his voice,
The trick, it seemed, was in the Pitch,
And Higher turned into verbose.
And from this childhood home he strode,
Seemingly a man,
Eyes lit with great Expectations,
Nay, just Demands.
And again he layeth upon the ground,
But not the position he had chose,
The ground had shook as his butt hit,
From the pounding to his nose.
With time-line in total disarray,
Prometheus gave his new invention,
Thus armed with newfound might,
"Not Loosing" was Marc's intention.
Thus armed with his new power,
And a mail-order degree to boot,
Pastor Marc went forth against the world,
To argue would be heresy, thus moot.
Charcoal lighter fluid was all he needed,
To complete his lofty plan,
Nobody could dismiss him now,
For certainly, now he was a Man.
Grizzard spoke out 'The Pope's a Tool',
"Mother Theresa was really Satan",
"I'm the only one who should be listened to",
"Evidently I want to be Anglican again".
What happened when that match was struck,
Was interesting, but not a fascination,
The wind, it seemed, was from the North,
And found Marc's anal emanations.
Jeez---can something be done with the Carolinas? Maybe some kind of stupidity
purge is in the offing. Those rounded up could be made to sit in a room until
their common sense came back.
But you're right about generalizing. Although I am generally afraid of the Carolinas.
Religion is nonsense. The message of christ everyone needs to hear direct. It's the same as the message of other enlightened people, buddha, Beinsa. Forgive your brothers and sisters, because they have don't know that what they are doing is silly and meaningless. You will show that you DO know what you are doing if you forgive them. All divine guidance leads to forgiveness. Now go and do this and pay no attention to any other goal. This is the only goal that matters in your life or anyone's life.
I wonder what he thinks of the Torah and the Talmud. How about the new conservative version of the Bible where the "liberal" passages have been removed?
I'm a little bugged that Atheist Evangelist Sam Singleton is doing his full-length show in Asheville next month, but not in my hometown of Charlotte (a much larger city).
-Boink
It starts with books, before you know it, this guy will have women tied to posts in a yard, in flames.
http://www.pbase.com/kippercat/image/51600354
http://www.pbase.com/kippercat/image/51242311
Don't get me wrong. They have every right to have their little book burning, as long as they don't hurt anyone, or burn books that don't belong to them. I just think people should show the the error of their ways.
Interestting that a God fearing church such as this has a website on Satan's internet.
Oh wait...if you click the link to their website, it is nothing more than a place card. I guess we need disciple 15 to tithe their $19.95 to pay for the hosting.
This is the height of ignorance. The King James Bible, like ALL bibles, is a TRANSLATION of original writings in other languages. If you want to get closer to the true word of God, you're going to have to learn to read Greek, Aramaic, Latin and Hebrew.
God is not a native English speaker.
What a shame you would ever be required to think. Far too much to ask.
i also want to see what was burned...growing up in boston, then becoming an anarchist, and a punk, i think it would be easy to write a cool opinion paper (that's the English homework)
email:tazmon122@yahoo.com
Just my 2 cents.
And you cannot compare Obama to Hitler. Hitler managed to get the Olympics to his country!
Thanks alot.
We ought to tell the women of this church that any scripture that WOULD have been in there making women seem equal, rather than lesser people, were cut by MEN that put together the King James version. If it's anything, the King James version is a sexist, "evil" version of the "Bible".
Just a fun fact.
They sure do resemble the American Taliban, don't they?
Of course, so would mainstram Christianity and radical Islam.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Peace be with you all.
Intolerance and hypocrisy did not disappear with the changing of the guard in Washington. Freedom is a daily struggle, we know. But I have to believe free-thinking will prevail. I have to believe... (www.badbadbad.net)
Believing in Christ is a choice, just like not believing in Christ or believing in another deity. However, the choice must be life changing to make it believable...your life. No one is perfect, no one should expect perfection from another. We are called to excellence and passionate pursuit of Christ.
Anyone posting to the positive or the negative or neutral point of view has every right to do so. God said so when he created Adam and gave him free will.
Oh, one last thing...for everyone who believes the KJV is the only inspired word of God: "There is, therefore, no condemnation in Christ Jesus, author and finisher of our faith"
Intolerance and hypocrisy did not disappear with the changing of the guard in Washington. Freedom is a daily struggle, as we know. But I have to believe free-thinking will prevail. I have to believe this.
Intolerance and hypocrisy did not disappear with the changing of the guard in Washington. Freedom is a daily struggle, as we know. But I have to believe free-thinking will prevail. I have to believe this.
Could they not find something that would show the people of their parish & community the love of Christ during this time of year? Yes, Halloween is essentially an idolotrus holiday, & in the pagan course of the year, now is the time to reflect, & also celebrate the dead, or even death itself...BUT this type of display brings a different level of creep to the church. Globally (by way of technology) harming the witness of the saints & the elect. Acts 19: 18-20 was a book burning of spell books, books containing secret knowledge taught to mankind via fallen angels, artifacts & such that the people were giving up voluntarily, of their own accord. JESUS had penetrated their hearts, minds, & souls. They were overcome by their grief from their sins & the Spirit of the Living God was purging them on a personal level. The apostles did not demand them to do this.
Mankind is falable. Billy Graham, Mother Teresa, & the others have lived their lives as living scrafices to God. Yes, as with all of us they have and/or will mess up. Humanity is like that. Search yourself, you'll find you too bare similarities. We all miss the mark, but we must press toward the mark of the high calling of Christ. The point to running this "race" is not that we stumble, but that we don't stop.
Has it occured to Pastor Grizzard, that yes, the KJV is indeed inspired, & has & will outlast many other translations, but that it is just that. A translation. Why not speak & read in Aramaic, Greek, Latin, & Hebrew only? Listen only to, & worship only with Hebrew music? Are these not the more PURE forms of translated religious knowledge & culture? Why pray in English? It's just words that your heart has translated from your spirit? A VERSION of prayer.
This display ranks up there with The Crusades & The Salem Witch Burnings. Did nothing at all for the cause of Christ, & was a shame upon the face of the church.
Oh...I want some baked beans & a roasting ear with that.
But You aren't gonna report that are you???? You make me sick..!
"Up-Cumming Teens" Ministry
"Helping-hands" Ministry
LOL :D
Intolerance and hypocrisy did not disappear with the changing of the guard in Washington. Freedom is a daily struggle, as we know. But I have to believe free-thinking will prevail. I have to believe this.
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/kjvonly.htm
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In my opinion, the King James Version is probably the most accurate English translation of the original Bible...but interpreting any version of the Bible requires more struggle and contemplation than just reading the text and nodding your head along to whatever the higher-ups in the church hierarchy may say. I'm no theology major, but I've tinkered with it enough to know that even with the KJB, it helps to look up Greek and Hebrew translations. I would really like to see more critical thinking and wisdom-guided discernment (rather than political paranoia) in the church. It seems like many Christians are lashing out against benign things--seriously, some folks have gone so far as to say Pikachu is the devil.
Now I lay me down to sleep
Pray to God my soul to keep
I voted for Bush the Texacutioner
Who put more people to death than an executioner
The highest execution rate of any governor in history
How he was elected president is still a mystery
The biggest serial killer since Timothy McVeigh,
mocks Karla's pleas for clemency during her final days
I hold stoutly to my world view
Despite being contradicted by what is proven true
I believe the earth to be only 4000 years old
“Intelligent” design is the view I hold
Even though evolution explains how life changed and adapted
verified by countless experiments not retracted
the scientific facts should be stricken as inadmissible
teaching creationism to our children is permissible
Take some parts literally, others out of place
And I can use the Bible to judge the whole human race
Pat Robertson said 9/11 was a punishment from God
That innocents died instead of him he didn’t find odd
For lifestyles of feminism, liberalism, and being gay
Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said over 3,000 people died that day
That God will punish them for their remark
Pride has hidden from a judgmental heart
“After the last tree standing is felled”
“Christ will come back” I heard James Watt tell
you see evangelicals don’t care about generations
because they won’t have to be here to face elimination
“compassionate” conservatives fantasize about journeying through the air
As Left Behind: The Series plays out below everywhere
While pollution they caused brings about ecological collapse
It doesn’t bother them that people will die perhaps
Now I lay me down to sleep
Pray to God my soul to keep
I voted for Bush the Texacutioner
Who put more people to death than an executioner
The highest execution rate of any governor in history
How he was elected president is still a mystery
The biggest serial killer since Timothy McVeigh,
mocks Karla's pleas for clemency during her final days
I hold stoutly to my world view
Despite being contradicted by what is proven true
I believe the earth to be only 4000 years old
“Intelligent” design is the view I hold
Even though evolution explains how life changed and adapted
verified by countless experiments not retracted
the scientific facts should be stricken as inadmissible
teaching creationism to our children is permissible
Take some parts literally, others out of place
And I can use the Bible to judge the whole human race
Pat Robertson said 9/11 was a punishment from God
That innocents died instead of him he didn’t find odd
For lifestyles of feminism, liberalism, and being gay
Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said over 3,000 people died that day
That God will punish them for their remark
Pride has hidden from a judgmental heart
And I believe you know the reast of the story..... And if you don't , read it up...its awesome..My point is. GOD is always in control. not any of us.....
so...Hipocrasy FTW?
During the service it was said the news crew and others were listening through the floor upstairs and could here yelling from the service. The only disappointing thing was that more locals didn't attend the event. One came as far as Chattanooga, Tn and others an hour or so away. Was a peaceful event and most that were there didn't agree with this radical man!
Makes SO much sense.
Are we living in the dark ages or the 21st century, I can tell thee not! FOr thine occulant powers make of most evil connivings!
HARKEN THEE ART THINE DEVIL!!!
etc etc
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From: jamessavik
RE: What will you burn next?
"Where they have burned books,
they will end in burning human beings."
Heinrich Heine, 1933
What you are doing is frightening.
It enlightens no one, feeds fans the flames of intolerance and makes the people of Christ look like ignorant, dangerous lunatics.
You know, Christ right? Prince of peace, turn the other cheek, a great teacher of tolerance of and compassion for your fellow man?
Examine what you are doing and ask yourself if it glorifies him, is something that he would have done in his name and if that is the public image of Christians that you want to put in front of the world.
I'm sure you have a nice rationalization but in the end, it's all about YOU.
YOU should be ashamed of yourself.
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James Savik